C&AL: Let’s talk a little about the impact of salsa in Puerto Rico.
TCP: Salsa and music in general is our most powerful cultural manifestation. It influences all Puerto Rican thinking and aesthetics, and in reality, it’s in the machinery of our operating system. As I mentioned before, this is where our own modernity manifests itself.
C&AL: New York is key to salsa – after all, this was where it emerged in the 1970s – but in Puerto Rico it was a revolution.
TCP: There is a feeling outside Puerto Rico that the U.S. record label and orchestra Fania is everything in salsa, and it is even associated almost exclusively as the only catalyst for this genre. While you can’t deny the impact of that label, salsa is definitely more than that. With regards to Fania, I am very interested in the figures of Izzy Sanabria and Jorge Vargas. In the 1970s they created a company from which they developed the image of many of these musicians. Music and aesthetics were in dialogue, and the images they created corresponded with what was happening in New York City.
Another thing to keep in mind is that salsa is not a rhythm; it is just the way a lot of Caribbean rhythms were labeled in that decade. This also happened with the other elements surrounding the music.
C&AL: For several years now, you and I have shared interests relating to the Caribbean and we both understand our artistic practice in Puerto Rico as a Caribbean practice. What is your impression of the Caribbean art scene?
TCP: Unfortunately, I don’t see it, or we don’t see it as we would like to. We want to interact but it doesn’t happen. In the Caribbean, our respective political realities make dialogue almost impossible. In music however, exchanges are more evident although there are always efforts to make them happen in other areas as well like art, literature, dance or theater.
Still, there are points of convergence. In spite of working in similar but different contexts, I see the idea of the trace or trail manifesting itself in many artworks made in the Caribbean or by artists from the region – it is all being pulled into the way we create art.